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REPLY TO A HERETIC Professor Abdul Hadi Plazzi

By SHAIKH ABU ABDUR-RAHMAN YAHYA SILMY BIN M. NUBAR AS-SAYLANI AS-SALAFI AS-ATHARI (hafizahullaah)

Professor Abdul Hadi Plazzi wrote as :
"1 - an heretic and marauder called Muhammad Ibn 'Abdi-l-Wahhabwas an "heretic" because of the fact he founded a cult of his own,………"

Abu Abdur Rahman Yahya Silmy As-Saylani As-Salafi Al-Asthari replied as :

Dear Brother Palazzi,
Assalamu Alaikum warahmathullahi Wabarakathuhu

Reading your answer I find that I should answer to you the very same way you are coming with me.

Since I wrote to you have ignored me in all the questions which I have raised to you. If you think that you are eager to accept the truth look well openly your eyes into what I say do not try to always ignore and be proud of what you have.

What you have written to me is nothing new to surprise me, but I was expecting you answers of my points which could keep the discussion more clear. Not only you have ignored the questions but as well have trembled over words and phrases as your habit without any evidences once again.

How ever I am here once again to help you understand the matter.

YOUR STATEMENT
"Since the argument of our discussion is 'aqidah, we do not need to use a diplomatic language, but the best thing is using words that reflect the real nature of facts. I do not use offensive language, but must clearly express my point of view. Let's see the words you quoted from my last message."

MY COMMENTS :
It is true that we have to always use the real nature of facts while expressing a matter. But what of rumors taken as facts? And what of lies taken as the base and fundamentals? and what of making matters which never were as it was? If those which you claim are not rumors then why not produce evidence? If the base and fundamentals you take are the fact where are their evidences? Are these just base and fundamentals because you told it is a base or fundamental?

YOUR STATEMENT :
"1 - an heretic and marauder called Muhammad Ibn 'Abdi-l-Wahhabwas an "heretic" because of the fact he founded a cult of his own,………"

MY COMMENTS :
If he verily had produced an new cult you have the right to call him as you say, I have read his books as well the books before him among those scholars who have died before 300 Hijri, I did not find the teaching of Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab something new from what they have.

If you have something new let me know it so that I can answer to you direct on that issue. Here I am presenting to you those Imams whom I found similar to what Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahab has spoken in his Kitaab At-Tawheed. Now look at them care fully and tell me is still Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab a "heretic". I have placed the Hijri death dates in the brackets to know how earlier and near to the time of Prophet Muhammed they were. The death date of the Sahabas are not mentioned as every one knows that they lived with the Prophet Muhammed in his time.

Among the Sahabas:

  1. Aamir bin Yasir,

  2. Abdullah bin Masoud,

  3. Abdullah bin Abbas,

  4. Abdullah bin Amr bin Al-Aas,

  5. Abdullah bin Az-Zubair,

  6. Abdur Rahman bin Aouf,

  7. Abu Bakr As-Siddique,

  8. Abu Huraira,

  9. Abu Masoud Uqbatha bin Amr,

  10. Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari,

  11. Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri,

  12. Abu Umamatha Sadi bin Ajlaan,

  13. Abud Dardaa,

  14. Abut Tufail Aamir bin Wasilah,

  15. Aisha As-Siddiqah,

  16. Ali bin Abi Talib,

  17. Huziafah bin Usaid Al-Ghifari,

  18. Huzifah bin Al-Yamaan,

  19. Imran bin Hussien,

  20. Jabin bin Abdullah,

  21. Jundab bin Abdullah,

  22. Mouaz bin Jabal,

  23. Sa'ad bin Abi Waqqas,

  24. Saeed bin Zaid,

  25. Salman Al-Farsi,

  26. Ubadatha bin Samith,

  27. Ubi bin Ka'ab,

  28. Umair bin Habeeb bin Khumasha,

  29. Umar bin Al-Khattab,

  30. Ummu Salama,

  31. Uqbathu bin Aamir Al-Juhani,

  32. Usman bin Affan,

  33. Zaid bin Sthabith,

  34. Zubair bin Al-Awaam,

    Those who died before the 100 Hijri

  35. Ka'ab bin Mati'e Al-Ahbaar,( 32 Hijri).

  36. Al-Qamatha bin Qaiys (62 Hijri).

  37. Muhammed bin Al-Hanafiyah,(81 Hijri).

  38. Abu Aaliyah Rafie' bin Mihran Ar-Riyaahi (93 Hijri).

  39. Ali bin Al-Hussain bin Ali bin Abi Talib.(94 Hijri).

  40. Sa'eed bin Al-Musaieb (94 Hijri).

  41. Urwathu bin Az-Zubair,(94 Hijri).

  42. Ibrahim bin Yazeed An-Nakhaie (96 Hijri).

  43. Abdullah bin Muhaiiez (99 Hijri).

  44. Umar bin Abdul Aziz, (99 or 101 Hijri).

    Those who are between 100 - 150 Hijri.

  45. Aamir bin Sharahbeel As-Sha'bie (103, 104 or 105 Hijri).

  46. Mujahid bin Jabr (103 Hijri).

  47. Abu Qilabatha Abdullah bin Zaid Al-Jurmi (104 or 105 Hirji).

  48. Al-Qasim bin Muhammed binAbi Bakr, (106 Hijri).

  49. Salim bin Abdullah bin Umar, (106 Hijri).

  50. Thawoos bin Kaisaan (106 Hijri).

  51. Sulaiman bin Yasir,(107 Hijri).

  52. Hassan bin Abil Hassan Al-Basri (110 Hijri).

  53. Muhammed bin Sireen (110 Hijri).

  54. Raja bin Hiyawiya (112 Hirji).

  55. Talha bin Musrif (112 Hijri).

  56. Atha bin Abi Ribah (114 Hijri).

  57. Muhammed bin Ali bin Al-Hussien bin Ali bin Abi Talib.( 114 Hijri).

  58. Ibn Abi Mulaikah (117 Hijri).

  59. Maimoon bin Mihraan (117 Hijri).

  60. Adadatha bin Nusaie (118 Hijri).

  61. Zaid bin Ali bin Al-Hussien (122 Hijri).

  62. Zaid bin Al-Harith (123 Hijri).

  63. Muhammed bin Muslim Ibn Shihaab Az-Zuhri.( 124 Hijri).

  64. Abdullah bin Thawoos bin Kaisaan (126 Hijri).

  65. Amr bin Dinaar (126 Hijri).

  66. Abdul Kareem bin Malik Al-Jazari (127 Hijri).

  67. As well Yahya bin Abi Kaseer.( 129 Hijri).

  68. Abu Bakr Ayub Ibn Abi Tamiema As-Sakhthiyani (131 Hijri).

  69. Rabieatha bin Abi Abdur Rahman (136 Hijri).

  70. Zaid bin Aslam (136 Hijri).

  71. Yunoos bin Ubaid (139 Hijri).

  72. Sulaiman At-Taimie (142 Hijri or 143).

  73. Abdullah bin Shuzab (144 Hijri).

  74. Abdullah bin Hassan (145 Hijri).

  75. Abu Hayyan Yahya bin Sa'eed At-Taiymee (145 Hijri).

  76. Jafar bin As-Sadiq.( 148 Hijri).

  77. Muhammed bin Waleed Az-Zubairi (148 Hijri).

  78. Abdul Malik bin Abdul Aziz Ibn Juraij (150 Hijri).

    Those who between 150 - 200 Hijri.

  79. Abdullah bin Aown (151 Hijri).

  80. Abdur Rahman bin Yazeed bin Jabir (153 Hijri).

  81. Abu Amr bin Al-A'ala (154 Hijri).

  82. Hamza bin Habeeb Az-Zaiyaath Al-Muqri (156 Hijri).

  83. Abdur Rahman bin Amr Al-Awzaee (157 Hijri).

  84. Malik bin Magwul (157, 158 or 159 Hijri).

  85. Hiyawiyatha bin Shuraieh (158 Hijri).

  86. Sufyaan bin Sa'eed As-Souri (161 or 162 Hijri).

  87. Zaiedatha bin Qudamah (161 Hijri).

  88. Abdul Aziz bin Abi Salamatha Al-Majushoon.( 164 Hijri).

  89. Hammad bin Salama (167 Hijri).

  90. Sa'eed bin Abdul Aziz At-Tanookhi (167 or 163 Hijri).

  91. Abdullah bin Lihiya (174 Hijri).

  92. Laiesth bin Sa'ad (175 Hijri).

  93. Muhammed bin Muslim At-Taiefie (177 Hijri).

  94. Shuraik bin Abdullah Al-Qazi (177 Hijri).

  95. Abu Abdullah Al-Faqieh Malik bin Anas (179 Hijri).

  96. Hammad bin Zaid (179).

  97. Nafi'e bin Umar Al-Juhami (179 Hijri).

  98. Abu Ubaid Ar-Rahman Abdullah bin Al-Mubarak Al-Marwazi (181 Hijri).

  99. An-Nazr bin Muhammed Al-Marwazi (183 Hijri).

  100. Husahim bin Bushair Al-Wasithi (183 Hijri).

  101. Abu Ishaq Ibrahim bin Muhammed Al-Fizaari (185 Hijri).

  102. Yahya bin Abdul Malik bin Abi Ghunai (186 Hijri).

  103. Fuzail bin Iyaaz (187 Hijri).

  104. Abdur Rahman bin Al-Qasim (191 Hijri).

  105. Abdullah bin Idrees (192 Hijri).

  106. Al-Fazl bin Musa As-Siynaani (192 Hijri).

  107. Abu Bakr bin Iyaash (193 Hijri).

  108. Abdur Rahman bin Muhammed Al-Muharabi (195 Hijri).

  109. Yahya bin Sulaim At-Taiefie (195 Hijri).

  110. Mouaz bin Mouaz (196 Hijri).

  111. Abdullah bin Wahb Al-Qurashi (197 Hijri).

  112. Wakie bin Al-Jarrah (197 Hijri).

  113. Abdur Rahman bin Mahdi (198 Hijri).

  114. Sufyan bin Uaiyeenah (198 Hijri).

  115. Yahya bin Sa'eed Al-Qathaan (198 Hijri).

    Those who are between the 200 - 250 Hijri.

  116. Hammad bin Usamah (201 Hijri).

  117. An-Nazr bin Shumail Al-Mazni (203 Hijri).

  118. Abu Abdullah Muhammed bin Idrees As-Shafie (204 Hijri).

  119. Ash-Hab bin Abdul Aziz (204 Hijri).

  120. Muhammed bin Ubaid At-Tanafis (204 Hijri).

  121. Wahb bin Jareer (206 Hijri).

  122. Ja'afer bin Aown (209 Hijri).

  123. Abdul Malik bin Abdul Aziz, (212 Hijri).

  124. Abdullah bin Yazeed Al-Muqri (213 Hijri).

  125. Abdul A'alaa bin Mus-Hir Ad-Dimashqi (218 Hijri).

  126. Abdullah bin Az-Zubair Al-Humaidi (219 Hijri).

  127. Abu Na'eem Fazl bin Dukaiyn (219 Hijri).

  128. Al-Qaasin bin Sal-Laam (224 Hijri).

  129. Amr bin Auwn (225 Hijri).

  130. Ismaeel bin Abi Uwais,( 226 Hijri).

  131. Ahmed bin Abdullah bin Yunoos(227 Hijri).

  132. Nuaiem bin Hammad Al-Marwazzi (228 Hijri).

  133. Ibrahim bin Musa Al-Farra (230 Hijri).

  134. Ismael bin Sa'eed As-Shafanji (230 Hijri).

  135. Yusoof bin Yahya Al-Buwaiythee (231 Hijri).

  136. Yahya bin Ma'een (233 Hijri).

  137. Abul Hassan Ali bin Abdullah bin Ja'fer Al-Madieni (234 Hijri).

  138. Zuhair bin Harb An-Nasaie (234 Hijri).

  139. Abu Bakr bin Abi Shaieba(235 Hijri).

  140. Ishaq bin Ibrahim bin Mukhallud known as Ibn Rahawieh (238 Hijri).

  141. Muhammed bin Nasr Al-Marwazi (238 Hijri).

  142. Usman bin Abi Shaieba (239 Hijri).

  143. Wahb bin Baqiya (239 Hijri).

  144. Ibrahim Khalid Al-Kali (240 Hijri).

  145. Muhammed bin Sulaiman Al-Masiesie known as Balween (240 Hijri).

  146. Abu Qudamah Ubaid bin Sa'eed As-Sarkhas (241 Hijri).

  147. Ahmed bin Muhammed bin Hanble (241 Hijri).

  148. Muhammed bin Aslam At-Tousi (242 Hijri).

  149. Hishaam bin Amaar Ad-Dimashqi (245 Hijri).

  150. Abbas bin Abdul Azeem Al-Anbari (246 Hijri).

  151. Ahmed bin Ibrahim Ad-Daourqi (246 Hijri).

  152. Muhammed bin Al-A'alaa Al-Hammadani (248 Hijri).

  153. Al-Hassan bin As-Sabbah Al-Bazzar (249 Hijri).

  154. Humaid bin Zanjawieh An-Nasawi (249 Hijri).

  155. Abdullah bin Abdur Rahman As-Simarqundi (250 Hijri).

    Those who are between 250 - 300 Hirji.

  156. Ahmed bin Sinan (252 Hijri).

  157. Muhammed bin Bashaar (252 Hijri).

  158. Muhammed bin Ismael Al-Bukhari (256 Hijri).

  159. Abu Masoud Ahmed bin Al-Farrath (258 Hijri).

  160. Muhammed bin Yahya Az-Zuhali (258 Hijri).

  161. Abu Zura'atha Ubaidullah bin Abdul Kareem Ar-Razi (264 Hijri).

  162. Ismaeel bin Yahya Al-Muzani (264 Hijri).

  163. Ahmed bin Sayyar Al-Marwazi (268 Hijri).

  164. Muhammed bin Abdullah bin Abdul Hakum Al-Misri (268 Hijri).

  165. Abu Ubaidullah Muhammed bin Muslim bin Warah (270 Hijri).

  166. Ar-Rabie bin Sulaiman Al-Muradie (270 Hijri).

  167. Abu Dawud Sulaiman Al-Asha'us As-Sajusthani (275 Hijri).

  168. Abu Hatim Muhammed bin Idrees Al-Hanzali (277 Hijri).

  169. Ya'qoub bin Sufyan Al-Fassawi (277 Hijri).

  170. Abu Isa Muhammed bin Isa At-Tirmizi (279 Hijri).

  171. Sahl bin Abdullah At-Tastari (283 Hijri).

  172. Abu Nuaim Abdul Malik bin Adi Al-Istrabazi (288 Hijri).

  173. Abu Mus'ab (292 Hijri).

    Those who are after 300 Hijri.

  174. Abu Abdur Rahman An-Nasawi (303 Hijri)

  175. Muhammed Jareer At-Tabari (310 Hijri)

  176. Muhammed bin Ishaq bin Khuzaima (311 Hijri)

  177. Muhammed bin Uqail Al-Balakhi (316 Hijri)

  178. Abdur Rahman ibn Abi Hatim (327 Hijri)

  179. Ali bin Ibrahim bin Salamah Al-Qattan Al-Qazweeni (345 Hijri)

  180. Ahmed bin Salman An-Najjaad (348 Hijri)

  181. Abu Bakr Muhammed bin Al-Hassan An-Naqqash AL-Muqri (351 Hijri)

Are you as well going to call all these Imams "heretic"..
Palazzi I advice to you sincerely go and read these books of those Imams who were in the earlier years, then may Allah open your eyes if you truly searching for the truth. Reading the books of those who have written about Islam and it's fundamentals at the later time gives to you more corruption than more guide line.

If you want I can place the statements and the Aqeedah of each Imam whom I have mentioned in the above given list. 

To make it more easy to you to know the Aqeedah of these above mentioned Imams the following the references. Some of the Hijri dates of death are mentioned while others ignored if you need them I may take to even note them for you to know did they all also read the book of Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab to talk of all these what very same things which are being talked by Imam Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab in his book of Tawheed.

  1. Sharah Usool I'tiqaad Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah of Imam Lalakaie. (418 Hijri).

  2. As-Sunnah of Imam Abdullah bin Ahmed bin Hanbali.

  3. As-Sunnah of Imam Ibn Abi A'asim As-Shaibaani.

  4. As-Sunnah of Imam Ibn Al-Khallaal.

  5. As-Sunnah of Imam Muhammed bin Nasr Al-Marwazi.

  6. Usool As-Sunnah of Imam Ahmed bin Hanble.

  7. Al-Ibana Aun Sharieath Al-Fuirqathun Naj'ieeyah of Imam Ibn Batta Al-Akbari (387 Hijri).

  8. Ibanathul Kubra of Imam Ibn Batta Al-Akbari (387 Hijri).

  9. Usool As-Sunnah of Imam Ibn Abi Zamneen.

  10. Kitab Sharah As-Sunnah of Al-Barbahari.

  11. Al-Ibana fi Usool Ad-Diyana of Imam Abul Hassan Al-Ashari.

  12. Al-Mukhtaar fi Usool As-Sunnah of Imam Ibn Al-Banna.

  13. Sareeh As-Sunnah of Imam Abu Ja'afer Muhammed bin Jareer At-Tabari.

  14. Aqeedathu As-Salaf wa Ashabul Hadeeth of Imam Abi Usman As-Saabouni.

  15. Sharaf Ashabul Hadeeth of Imam Khateeb Al-Bagdhadi.

  16. Kitaab As-Sifaat of Imam Ad-Daraqutni. (385 Hijri).

  17. Kitaab An-Nuzool of Imam Ad-Daraqutni.(385 Hijri).

  18. Kitaab As-Sifaat of Imam Muhammed bin Nasir Al-Haazmi (1283 Hijri).

  19. Al-Arba'een fi Sifaat Rabul Ala-Meen of Imam Az-Zahabi (748 Hijri).

  20. Kitaab Al-Azama of Imam Abush Shiekh Al-As-Bahani (369 Hijri).

  21. Kitab Asma Was-Sifaat of Imam Al-Baihaqi (458 Hijri).

  22. Mas'Alathul Al-U'luoo fil Hadeeth of Imam Ibn Al-Qaisrawani (507 Hijri).

  23. Ma rawa fil Houwz wal Kauser of Imam Baqi bin Mukhlud Al-Qurtabi (276 Hijri).

  24. A completion of the book of Ma rawa fil Houwz wal Kauser of Imam Baqi bin Mukhlud Al-Qurtabi by Imam Abil Qaasim Ibn Bashkuwaal. (578 Hijri).

  25. Risalutun fi Anal Qur'aan Ghaira Makhlooq of Imam Ibrahim bin Ishaaq Al-Harbi (285 Hijri).

  26. Hikayathu Al-Munazara fi Al-Qur'aan ma'a ba'uz Ahlul Bida'a of Imam Mufaqud deen Ibn Qudama (620 Hijri)

  27. Khalq Af'aal Al-Ibaad of Imam Al-Bukhari

If you open your eyes and read the above mentioned books you may come to know what you have read all these years and what the change the world of Islam have in it's Aqeedah, Fiqh and Manhaj and other subjects from before the 300 Hijri and the later Hijri years. Yes still the Scholars after 300 Hijri have been conveying this message but in every time the quantity of these scholars more and more less as the Prophet Muhammed informed in the authentic Hadeeth of Sunan At-Tirmidhi. "Islam started as an strange thing and it will end as an strange thing"

Those books which you have mentioned in your website are of not any value in the field of education or research study, neither any of it have any evidence from the understanding of Sahabas, Tabeens, or Taba Tabeens its all things claimed and blamed on the scholars of the religion most of that false no any true evidence behind it.

At the same time ignorance of derivation of rules and regulations from the Qur'aan and Sunnah is clear to me as clear as the Sun light at the day time. This may take me sometime to make a complete refutation of it. If Allah wish and He the almighty bless me in my time I may take that project of refutation, But frankly speaking I do not feel any importance to refute them as those who consult the books of Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab clearly states the lies of these books, as well clearly shows the deviation of these books from the path which has been chosen by Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab, As Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab in his book always qoutes the above mentioned Imams and the qoutations from the Sahabas, Tabeens, Taba Tabeens so even if Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab was mistaken but not for all the Sahabas, Tabeens and the Taba Tabeens. While these books which mentioned by you and as well in your website have no any ground for surety of the truth , Nor do they have the understanding of the Sahabas , nor of the Tabeens, nor of the Taba Tabeens neither any qoutation of these Sahabas with any authentification gives then any value in their work, All what I understand from the books mentioned by you and the website mentioned by you is nothing except the following in short words :

  1. Enemity from Imam Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab.

  2. Blind following of the Mazhabs making them poisoned by them that they have no any chance to look into the fact of the religion mentioned by the Sahabas, Tabeens and the Taba Tabeens and the leading Imams of the religion.

  3. Arrogance and stubbornness in trying to prove what they imagine as the truth to the limit that contradiction to the Qur'aan and Sunnah has been a minor matter than a major matter in most of these books.

Tell me now I am talking with consultation not that my Shiekh told me so …

Brother Palazzi I feel your situation, well come ahead for the consultation of those books which I have mentioned to you and let us have the matter understood clearly if you are sincerely searching the truth.

YOU STATED AS :
"based on refusing the ijtihad of the four Sunni schools of fiqh"

MY COMMENTS :
Well this is a fact of those who avoid the blind following, because the four school of fiqh was not based by the Sahabas, Tabeens, Taba Tabeens but by those who are coming late after 300 Hijri. And each of these schools of thought are being mentioned in the name of a leading Imam. As Shia created a aqeedah of their own with the Ilmul Kalaam and claim that to be the teachings of Ali bin Abi Talib, Similarly aqeedah created from Ilmul Kalaam of Mu'tazilah and other deviated sects produced the result of the aurguments of Ash-ari and Maturudi aqeedah and then claimed to be the mazhab of all the Sahabaas and Tabeens as titled as Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah. Similarly fiqh based by

  1. Abu Hamid Al-Ghazzali, Shiraazi, Nawawi, Rafie claimed to be the teachings of Imam As-Shafie.

  2. Al-Murghiyaani, Sarkhasi, Ibn Abideen, Ibn Al-Hammam claimed to be the teaching of Imam Abu Hanifah.

  3. Ibn Qudamah, Buhoothi, Ibn Muflih, Ibn Abi Taglub and others claimed to be the teaching of Imam Ahmed bin Hanble.

  4. Ibn Al-Qaasim, Abul Waleed Al-Baaji, Ibn Farhoon, Ibn Marwaan Al-Maliki, Al-Garnathi, Al-Ishbeeli claimed to be the teachings of Imam Malik bin Anas.

All these four so called mazhabs being claimed to these Imam none of these are the students of these four Imams, neither none of these have similar Aqeedah as that of the four Imams.
So all those who are trying to follow the Sahabas understanding the Qur'aan and Sunnah the actual - Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah truly they will have to differ with so called four mazhabs to these Imams and as well claimed to the Sahabahs. Asthagfrillahul Azeem min hazal buhtaanul Azeem.

Another main point to be understood : Each Imam refused many of the facts of the previous Imams matters when they saw fault in it. If refusing a fault was a reason for calling a man heretic all the scholars of Islam should be called heretic. It is the Hanafi fiqh writes in their main reference as following :"A Hanafi cannot marry a Shafi except as an Ahlul Kitaab" tell me Mr. Palazzi where did Muhammed bin Abdul Wahhab or Imam Ibn Tayymiyah or Shiekh Al-Albani or any other leading Sunni Scholars of this nation ever say that one cannot marry a person who have pronounced the Shahada. All the refutations we have to the Ahlul Bidah of the blind followers of different Mazhabs either in Fiqh or Aqeedah never a Fatwa nor a statement have ever been passed by these scholars that you cannot marry the follower of another mazhab or sect.

Who is more heretic to the laws of Islam the one who keep up to the teaching of Qur'aan and Sunnah according to the understanding of the Sahabas or those who blindly take the Mazhabs as seperate religions in Islam itself.

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